Why does Obama keep Bringing Lincoln into the Conversation.

I can’t tell you how many times I have heard the names Obama and Lincoln in the same sentence.   I have to ask myself why is this happening.  Just today in his most anemic speech on the budget yet, Obama the indifferent ,proposed nothing more than his usual blame te other guy rhetoric.  But tucked neatly in the middle of the speech is this little gem.

But there’s always been another thread running through our history -– a belief that we’re all connected, and that there are some things we can only do together, as a nation.  We believe, in the words of our first Republican President, Abraham Lincoln, that through government, we should do together what we cannot do as well for ourselves.

Obama paraphrases Lincoln here.  He is attempting to use this quote to say Lincoln was a believer in big Government.   Well maybe Mr. Obama is not such a good student of history.  Let’s take this quote first.  Here is an exact reproduction of the comment by Lincoln from the Washington Examiner .

The legitimate object of government is to do for a community of people whatever they need to have done, but cannot do at all, or cannot so well do, for themselves, in their separate and individual capacities. In all that the people can individually do as well for themselves, government ought not to interfere. The desirable things which the individuals of a people cannot do, or cannot well do, for themselves, fall into two classes: those which have relation to wrongs, and those which have not. Each of these branch off into an infinite variety of subdivisions.

The first—that in relation to wrongs—embraces all crimes, misdemeanors and non-performance of contracts. The other embraces all which, in its nature, and without wrong, requires combined action, as public roads and highways, public schools, charities, pauperism, orphanage, estates of the deceased, and the machinery of government itself.

From this it appears that if all men were just, there still would be some, though not so much, need of government.

Well as we can see President Lincoln was no fan of big government.  Look at that last line.   It is glaring in the face of the massive intrusion in our lives of the current us government.  All the more reason to question the motivation of our current president for bringing the first Republican President into the conversation.  We all know that Lincoln freed the slaves at the end of the civil war.  But do we all know the civil war was not started to free the slaves.  The stark reality is that Mr. Lincoln and his team at the beginning of the war just wanted to prevent the spread of slavery.  The idea of confining it to the southern states was a big focus for Lincoln.  There was a big push to allow slavery in the western expansion and the battle lines were drawn between the northern states with many abolitionist and the southern states which were dependent on slavery for labor.
Now try to wrap your head around this.  Either this President is a very poor student of history or he is twisting history to suit his needs.  The problem with both is that they can be disproved.  Here is an excerpt from the first Douglas-Lincoln debate with Mr. Lincoln’s own words about the issue of slavery and black-white relations.

Now, gentlemen, I don’t want to read at any greater length, but this is the true complexion of all I have ever said in regard to the institution of slavery and the black race. This is the whole of it, and anything that argues me into his idea of perfect social and political equality with the negro, is but a specious and fantastic arrangement of words, by which a man can prove a horse-chestnut to be a chestnut horse. [Laughter.] I will say here, while upon this subject, that I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so. I have no purpose to introduce political and social equality between the white and the black races. There is a physical difference between the two, which, in my judgment, will probably forever forbid their living together upon the footing of perfect equality, and inasmuch as it becomes a necessity that there must be a difference, I, as well as Judge Douglas, am in favor of the race to which I belong having the superior position. I have never said anything to the contrary, but I hold that, notwithstanding all this, there is no reason in the world why the negro is not entitled to all the natural rights enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. [Loud cheers.] I hold that he is as much entitled to these as the white man. I agree with Judge Douglas he is not my equal in many respects-certainly not in color, perhaps not in moral or intellectual endowment. But in the right to eat the bread, without the leave of anybody else, which his own hand earns, he is my equal and the equal of Judge Douglas, and the equal of every living man. [Great applause.]

Not only did Lincoln not want to free the slaves in 1858 he did not feel blacks were equal to whites.  He said so openly.  And this is the President Obama wants to emulate?  How very odd.  Now we still have to deal with the issue of why Lincoln freed the slaves after the war was won.
Do you want to guess?  It was a way of punishing the south for bring war to the country.  Remember the first shot was from the south at Fort Sumpter.
People we have a black President using the memory of a dead president who did not even feel he was his equal to promote a government that Mr Lincoln wold be opposed to.  And for some reason people are buying it.  You are being deceived.  But my regular readers know that


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6 responses to “Why does Obama keep Bringing Lincoln into the Conversation.

  1. Lincoln didn’t liberate the slaves to punish the south. He liberated the slaves for three reasons.

    First, to win the war. Second, to prevent the same cause from creating another war. Third because it was the right thing to do.

    Let’s take them out of order. While Lincoln had no intention of doing anything in the short term worse than stopping the spread of slavery in the territories, the fact is the south rebelled to preserve slavery. Having led to one murderous civil war, why on earth should lincoln have consented to allow the evil institution that caused more american deaths than any conflict up until WWII, and the largest per-capita cost of american lives, ever, why should he let that institution continue and potentially lead to another war?

    As for the how it helps to win the war, it did several things. First, it gave an reward to slaveholding states that were under union control. Second, it gave African Americans a stake in victory. Even Jeff Davis acknowledged that slavery was vital to the war effort itself. The south inflated its numbers by using slaves as auxilleries, building fortifications and the like. the Emancipation proclamation took much of that away. And having slaves to work back at the plantation freed southern manpower to fight on the front lines. but after the EP, there was a massive slowdown and the number of runaway slaves skyrocketed. it was economic warfare and it very well might have made the difference between victory and defeat.

    And lincoln might have been a racist, but you don’t have to believe that black people are your equals to believe they didn’t deserve slavery. he did have a profound sense of compassion for the slave. to pretend that he was motivated more by hatred of the south than hatred of slavery itself because of the evil it was, is just wrong.

    That being said, it is an abuse of lincoln’s language for our President to have used that quote. he does not truly believe as lincoln did.

    • madmike59

      Aaron in the interest of expediency I did not go into too much detail on the particulars. But to me abolishing slavery did PUNISH the south by harming both their economy and war effort. Thanks for the details. I am sure my readers will enjoy the facts laid out here. This is the kind of stuff I am looking for in comments. Thanks Also I did mention that he refused to let it go on the Western expansion. Like I said broad strokes.

  2. howard einhorn

    we love obama…in between teaching hispanics diabetes in spanish..i enjoy the news..and i enjoy our president..we are blessed to have such a man…..who are you????

    • madmike59

      Howard. I am glad you like the President. Good for you. I am the author of this piece and I expressed an opinion. It is called free speech. I am a true public servant. Military and firefighter. I approved this comment but if you don’t like what I write go read other blogs. Have a great day and thanks for educating only one group of people about diabetes.

  3. bigeharris

    Well, Mike I may be last to respond but hopefully not least.?….Hey there is a notion not least…mmmmm.Lets see in a democracy not being least would the ultimate achievement of any society ,enforced or encouraged creed or color and even religion. Simply said this speech is just *&@#!!!. Just give me leaders weather Left or Right that truly not only belive in democracy but can act it out as true fellow citizens and they will have my vote…. Ooooo and I black….keep up the good work Mike and continue being a voice in this wilderness.

    • madmike59

      Glad you like it. Give me a candidate with Cajones. One who will cut the crap out of the budget.

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